Grimoire Tip-In Exhange: All

[EraserQueen]

Grimoire Tip-In Exchange
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Trade one-on-one with others to create your own Grimoire!
A Grimoire is a spell book, but this "swap" is a fun way to explore Pagan and Wiccan imagery and symbolism, and history of religions, mythology, botanical study, and culture.


What are tip ins? Tip ins are singe pages with an unadorned margin used for binding. For this type of swap, mat board may be too think. A heavy watercolor paper, or watercolor paper collaged should be sturdy enough!

How to Participate: This is an ongoing thread where you personally contact those listed for trades. Complete and post the profile provided below to start trading! Please feel free to chat and share art in this thread, as participants will be linked in the Original Post (OP).

Keep this thread active! We would love for you to share your ideas, theme interests, photos, binding and cover ideas, whinings, triumphs and results! What has worked for you? What hasn't? What do you want to try?

IMPORTANT: The are Book Pages, which means that you are creating fronts AND backs! Find a way to creatively integrate your name and info so that it fits in with your tip-in. Basically this means that if you exchange one tip-in you are essentially decorating two pages, front and back.


Feel free to post and chat/share art you find on the internets even if you're not participating!



Profile:


What media do you work in?

What media are you interested in trading for? (if you only want hand drawn or Mixed media etc. please indicate this!)

What Size is your Grimoire? (Try to keep it manageable! Between 3x5 and 4x6 (no larger than 5x7) is a good size -Remember to add a 1/4 inch margin e.g. a 4x6 would actually be 4.25x6 inches.)

What themes do you like/want more of? (animals, spells, creatures, herbology, positions, runes, anatomy, divination, history, fashion, etc..)

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? (Dark, Funky, like theMuppet, Fun and lighthearted, Spiritual)

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire? (Ancient -like Roman, Mayan, Greek, Egyptian; 14th, -18th century etc., Victorian, Modern, Medieval, Steampunk, etc.)

Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch? (or ambiguous!)

Are you open for trading? (let me, Erasrequeen, know if you are in a hiatus!)




Participants:

Catpratt (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=136277#post136277)
Eraserqueen (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=136285#post136285)
IceKat (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=136282#post136282)
SkyJules (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=136294#post136294)
theMuppet (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=136288#post136288)
WildHolly (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=137014#post137014)
AtomEve (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=140521#post140521)
Artful Disarray (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/showthread.php?5025-Grimoire-Tip-In-Exhange-All&p=140580#post140580)

[EraserQueen]

I have to think about mine a bit more before I create my profile! I kind of want one that is themed, but don't want to limit anyone either lol.

[Judithian]

So this is to create individual pages that would go in a book? Interesting and fun. Will have to think about this. All of a sudden I'm imaging Pressed Faerie & Dragon Scale books.

[EraserQueen]

Jud: yes! It's up to the individuals how many pages they want to trade for and how they bind them. I saw some really cool book covers that had faces sculpted into them..I'll try to find the pictures....

And yeah, I think a pressed faerie book or dragon one would rock!

[catpratt]

ooooo Annie, I love this idea. I've never heard of it before but read a bit. I would love to do some trading to make a book. Here goes:


What media do you work in?
I'm a P&P member.
What media are you interested in trading for? I'm interested in trading for either drawn/painted art or mixed media.

What Size is your Grimoire? I'd love to do a 5 wide x7 tall book., so the actual pages need to have the 1/4 inch extra so 5.25 x 7

What themes do you like/want more of? Magic is my theme...bottles, animals, spells, creatures, herbology, divination, witch craft, moon phases, plant/tree identification)

Here is an amazing example I'd love the art in my book to be: http://www.leighmccloskey.com/Author/Grimoire.htm

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? Spiritual, mystical, magical

[B]What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire? Medieval

Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch? good witch mostly

Are you open for trading? Ready to trade!

[Skyelance]

I have stared my reading and research, but the more I read then less I seem to know! so I am going to start a "profile" and then edit as necessary.. is that ok?


Profile:

What media do you work in? - P&P

What media are you interested in trading for? Anything

What Size is your Grimoire? 4 x 6 (tall)

What themes do you like/want more of? I am most interested in spells involving living things - animals and plants - shape shifting, telepathy, familiars .. also spells that control the elements are fascinating to me

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? spiritual - I like muted/faded colorful. I love the look of old worn pages (think tea stained, ripped, burnt, splattered)

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire? any time period

Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch? good, but will do whatever necessary to protect my family

Are you open for trading? Yes, I am

[IceKat]

How cool for this to turn up when I just finished a Book of Shadows swap over at Craftster! I'll attach a photo of some of my stuff once I get it off my camera...

What media do you work in? Hand drawn/painted

What media are you interested in trading for? Any, so long as it suits the theme

What Size is your Grimoire? I'm working with half page sizes (half a regular sheet of paper), so the full size is 5.5x8.5" vertically oriented, but there's a .5" margin so the working area is 5X8.5". You can just decorate 5X7 of that if you wish. lol

I'm also collecting 4x6" pages as well, since I can't stop making books!

What themes do you like/want more of? My book is for actual use, so please don't invent content! I'm happy to invent things if my partner wishes, though. Your own poetry is fine though. I'm interested in pages for Bast, Dionysus, Pan, Maahes, Ganesha, and anything related to them. ie, if you do a Dionysus illustration, then spells for mood-lifting, how to make home-made wine, mulled wine recipes... etc. I'm also interested in animals, aromatherapy, simple recipes for sabbats, guided meditations... I'll add and subtract themes here as I think of it or receive things.

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? Serious, but I also like pages where things are 'happening,' like the hybrid mini albums people are doing lately: space for info or images, but also pockets and tags and things that pop up, rotate, etc. Not mandatory but liked.

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire? Gypsy-exotic. I like the tribal gypsy bellydance esthetic, so rich jewel-tone colours with metallic accents, henna patterns, dangles are welcome. Someone is making me a cover for my book, which I haven't seen yet, but I requested red and purple and dangly coins. Some Egyptian thrown in is fine too, Morocco, India, etc.

Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch? Depends who you ask, but I say good.

Are you open for trading? Sure thing!

[EraserQueen]

Cathy: Yay! I love the images you liked to, especially the use of white ink and writing in between the sun rays! I will create my portfolio after I finish your 5x7 super hero girl, maybe we can include a grimoire trade?

Sara: Can't wait to see what you come up with!

I think I will give mine a Moon theme...I love celestial imagery and that is still broad enough for people to play with.

[EraserQueen]

Heather: COOL! I can't wait to see your pictures!! :jiggy: And I love your themes. I also like the fact that we get to research and learn more about the themes we are making artwork for.

[EraserQueen]

What media do you work in?
I do hand drawn and mixed media. Let me know if you have a preference, but I most enjoy a mix of drawn and altered collage.

What media are you interested in trading for?
I would love whatever media you are comfortable working in!

What Size is your Grimoire?
My book is 4x6, so you'll be wowkring in a 3.75 x 6 inch space, portrait orientation. I like a lot of detail, and if I make the book too big it might overwhelm people!

What themes do you like/want more of?
I would like an overall Moon theme, So Night Sky Celestial centered. Wihin that theme I am happy to see sub-themes like animals, spells, creatures, herbology, runes, anatomy, divination, history etc.

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire?
I would describe it as spiritual and dark, but not icky dark. More of a haunting, mystical feel.


What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire?
I would be happy to see any cultures or time periods. I do ask though that the feel of a time period or culture be evident in some way. When I look at the page it would be nice to feel "Egyptian" or "Middle eastern" or "Medieval". The choice of what culture/time period is yours though!


Are you a good witch or a bad witch? Good, but could be ambiguous!

Are you open for trading? Yes.

[themuppet]

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? (Dark, Funky, like theMuppet, Fun and lighthearted, Spiritual)

ROFL at "like theMuppet"

I think I would like to play, but I'll have to think on it! Never mind, I've thunk!

[themuppet]

What media do you work in? If you have a preference, I'll do it.. I'm mixing medias like crazy lately, though.

What media are you interested in trading for? Any

What Size is your Grimoire? Let's do 4 x 6, so 3.75 x 6 working area, portrait orientation

What themes do you like/want more of? I'd like to do an "in the shadows" theme, so it could involve nocturnal creatures, spells for the new moon, dark goddesses, things that go bump in the night, etc.

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? Ha I guess it'd be 'like theMuppet' ;) Funky and dark? I'm okay with your own style as long as it's on the darker side. Blood and gore is totally fine, not necessarily encouraged but not discouraged.

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire? None really, just do what you do.

Are you a good witch or a bad witch? A bad witch with good intentions?

Are you open for trading? Not right now :(

[EraserQueen]

Yay, do i add a .25 inch to the 4x6 demension??? And i meant "FUNKY like the muppet...drned punctuation.....lol this is written stupid becaue i am on my nook...

[themuppet]

Naw, 4 x 6 total, so 3.75 x 6... I'll edit! ;D

[Skyjules]

I'm in Annie!

What media do you work in?
P&P

What media are you interested in trading for?
P&P

What Size is your Grimoire?
6.75 x 5 (landscape) so finished size would be 7" wide by 5" tall
(feel free to color in that last quarter inch, just don't put anything to that needs to be read in there)

What themes do you like/want more of?
My book will be all about herbology (medicinal, culinary, magical) types of magical talismens and amulets, uplifting meditations, kitchen witchery, a rune or an astrology page is welcome too, gardening by the moon.

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire?
any theme but sweet cartoony or extremely dark

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire?
artists choice

Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
only good

Are you open for trading?
ready!

[catpratt]

Annie, we need to know portrait or landscape, right? Or maybe people don't care. I modified my post to say portrait orientation. I'm needing to know what your is Annie.

[dina54]

Oh crap, I need to catch up on a few things before I commit. Maybe I will join in after I get back from next weeks Bike trip.

[EraserQueen]

Orientation is a good point! Mine is Portrait!

[EraserQueen]

My page size is about half the size of a 5x7 (which most of you are asking for), would people feel it unfair to ask for two 4x3.75's? Or would they feel inclined to rush through of they had to make two?

[themuppet]

I thought you were asking for 4 x 6? that's not that much smaller than 5 x 7!

[catpratt]

Annie, yes, please confirm your size. I'm working on yours and thought it was 4x6. One inch smaller on each side than the 5x7 I just cut also. I can do whatever you think is fair so the sizes jive.

[EraserQueen]

Durr.....I am misremembering the size I originally was going to make... Ignore the crazy person impersonating me!

[Skyjules]

Here is my back and front cover, lined it with some soft marbled paper
I've been saving for such a use...not sure how I'll bind it yet.

[Skyelance]

Oooh skyjewles that is awesome. I love getting a chance to use a special price of paper/fabric whatever for a worthy cause!

[wildholly]

Please add me.


What media do you work in?
I'm a P&P
What media are you interested in trading for? I'm interested in trading for either drawn/painted art and mixed media is ok too. I'm also open to added pockets.

What Size is your Grimoire? I'd love to do a
6.75 x 5 (landscape) so finished size would be 7" wide by 5" tall


What themes do you like/want more of? Herbs, Herbal recipes, Bees, Anything Garden (green witchy related).Other ideas - flower mandalas, garden verse with illustrations etc. Love Tasha Tudor.
How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire? Witichy,magical-Vintage-well aged! old paper,worn,spattered,tea stained worn...extra pockets...dried petals, leaves, seeds all ok too.

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire? " Old style, vintage looking, witchy and/or victorian

Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch? Either or neither

Are you open for trading? Ready to trade!

[catpratt]

Yay Wildholly, glad you are here.

Skyjules, the textures, your colors, it looks so mysterious!!

[wildholly]

Skyjules, I love your book covers, front and back....What size are they?

Does anyone have suggestions on how to tip in and secure the pages. Binder rings?

[Skyjules]

thanks Holly!
mine are the same as yours! finished size 7x5 landscape.
I might just collect for a while and then spiral bind them, or maybe stitch them not sure yet.

[wildholly]

I love the idea of stitching them.

[IceKat]

For the moment I have extra long split brads through the holes while I collect pages. Later I'll either use binder rings or ribbon to secure it.

[Skyjules]

here is a page for CatPratt...was trying for medieval, ended up going with darker muted tones to make it seem "old"
http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/gallery/images/914/medium/1_catpratts.jpg (http://www.illustratedatcs.com/forum/gallery/index.php?n=33539)

[oddbreed]

Skyjules, that is a fabulous page! lurking...

[wildholly]

Wow---Just beautiful skyjules!

Thanks IceKat for the binding ideas...sounds like a good way to do it.

Come on back here Oddbreed!

[IceKat]

Ah finally got it off the camera! This is the package I sent for the BoS swap over at Craftster. The Wheel of the Year spins, and there are herbology ones with plants illustrated with their uses, a few blanks for writing on... lots of different things.

[EraserQueen]

WOW! What an awesome package Heather! I really love the dolls too!

[IceKat]

Thanks! It was a bit of an obsession for a while. I'm working on a pretty cover for a full page BoS/Journal right now. Might Etsy it, I think. But I love making things like this.

[EraserQueen]

I hope you'll share pictures! What is BoS?

[Skyjules]

BoS = Book of Shadows (http://paganwiccan.about.com/od/wiccaandpaganismbasics/ht/BOS.htm)
I always thought its the same thing as a Grimoire

[IceKat]

Pretty much, nowadays. Although a Book of Shadows is typically very personal and may contain notes on meditations and experiments, and I think a grimoire is typically a non-personal spell or ritual book. That's my way of dividing it at least.

I've got the 8.5x11" book cover stitched up in a patterned burgundy velvet with sort of satin lining, and matching fringe on the spine side. It laces together with fiber in a figure 8 through 3 holes currently but I may change it. So far it has 25 sheets of parchment, and a paisley cardstock for the first page. Whew!

Next I've got one a bit larger than 4x6" covered in smeary purple and black cotton outside and a black satin lining. Just gathering stuff to decorate it and add pages. It's been a book-making weekend! I'll probably paint some pages tonight or tomorrow. I've got lots of ideas.

Happy to trade if anyone's up for it! I'm going to adjust my book info to collect 4x6" as well, I think.

[Skyjules]

Ah, that sounds logical, thanks for the explanation!


Pretty much, nowadays. Although a Book of Shadows is typically very personal and may contain notes on meditations and experiments, and I think a grimoire is typically a non-personal spell or ritual book.

[catpratt]

Heather, what gorgeous magical work. Thanks for explaining. Having never heard of either Book of Shadows or Grimoire, I'm so so happy to be learning!

[catpratt]

Skyjules and I are doing a grimoire trade and she had a GREAT idea. We are also trading a background page. We'll each make a magical background for the other. That way I can put something cool on top of Julie's background. I thought I would mention it!

[wildholly]

Here are the page 1 and backside of page one for Catpratt.
I focused on medieval~Tree Calendar
I am working on the background page now.

[Skyjules]

holy moley holly thats very awesome indeed.

[catpratt]

Holly. Wow. I'm stunned. That is one flippin gorgeous page. Wow. Thank you:-)

[IceKat]

Beautiful page/s! I can't wait to see more being posted!

[catpratt]

Ok Holly, here are your pages, front and back. I hope you like them. I am working on a blank for your also.

[wildholly]

They are absolutely beautiful Cat! I love the hand with the eye and the moon side is stunning!! Can't wait to receive them. woo hoo!

[Skyjules]

those are beautiful pages Cathy! love the colors on the palm page, yum

[acalla]

Love this idea....an am really interested in doing it.
Are there any pages done so I can see samples?
Is it half text or less?
or any?

Does the spell or chant..ect have to be taken from something real or can you make it up?
Like paint a moon on a page
and than add in text... turn 3 times to left on full moon while holding a bouquet of Columbine ...remedy for feeling insecure.

Do you know what I mean?

[wildholly]

There are pages done above for your to peruse.

[acalla]

There are pages done above for your to peruse.

They do help...was hoping for a bit more.
I could search the net too couldn't I :)

[acalla]

Ya know I just read Icekats profile here in the thread....that helped me to understand it all a bit better

[Skyjules]

Is it half text or less? or any?

Does the spell or chant..ect have to be taken from something real or can you make it up?
Like paint a moon on a page and than add in text... turn 3 times to left on full moon while holding a bouquet of Columbine ...remedy for feeling insecure.

yes, all of the above, you can do whatever you want depending on the theme of the person you're doing it for. Yes, make stuff up - just let your creativity flow!

[IceKat]

I just want to be able to use mine in a pagan capacity. Some people, I'm sure, just want something arty.

[acalla]

Thanks guys :)

[wildholly]

Once we get moving along with this, there will be lots more to show.
Acalla ... jump on board!

[catpratt]

I have completely wonderful magical treasures here from Skyjules. Julie, your work is so lovely, so many details. We traded a grimoire page and a background. They are glorious Julie, thank you!

[wildholly]

And I have received super beautiful pages from Cattpratt. Woo hoo! Will post itrader now.

pm'd skyjules for a swap next.

[Artful disarray]

Ohhhhh this is just too brilliant!! When I get up the courage to do my first big swap I am all over it! -squee!-

[AtomEve]

Oh my... I love this idea! I'm in too.~

What media do you work in?
I mostly use paint & ink

What media are you interested in trading for?
I'm interested in trading for either painted or mixed media.

What Size is your Grimoire?
4x6

What themes do you like/want more of?
Gods & Goddess description, herbology (medicinal, plant diagrams, magical), creatures, and divination.

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire?
Mystical, magical, transitional (good to bad).

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire?
Think coffee/tea stained pages. I'd like to have a collection of good and bad creatures. I'd also adore a few darker pieces with an H.P. lovecraft style like...

http://mrzarono.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d51v8fr

Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
I imagine I'd be a good witch but educated against the "Dark Arts"

Are you open for trading?
YES!

[EraserQueen]

Fantastic! Welcome!

[Artful disarray]

I....I think I'm ready!

What media do you work in?
Marker, Watercolor, ink, pencil

What media are you interested in trading for?
Everything~!

What Size is your Grimoire?
5x7 with allowance at the leftside edge, so 5.25x7

What themes do you like/want more of?
Herbalism and greenwitchery, kitchen witchery and hearthcraft/hearth lore. Local God/Goddess
descriptions and imagery. Not interested in high magick or coven/groupwork. I want this to
seem like a cookbook that has been touched by many family hands.

How would you describe the "tone" of your grimoire?
A well-worn family book, passed down through generations. I'd love to see a book that is eclectic, well-traveled,
as if it's been an important book in many homes through the ages, in many different places.

What "time period" or "theme", if any, is your Grimoire?
I'm looking for a book that seems to trace it's way
from rural European or Eastern to places all over the globe, ending in my own modern pages, as if the
book has traveled with a family through the ages. Simply put: any time frame as long as there IS a time frame :)


Optional: Are you a good witch or a bad witch?
A daily witch, with a practice that ebbs and flows with the seasons. Slightly dark sometimes,
decidedly bright and cheery other times. A witch for any season :)

Are you open for trading?
Ohmygoodnessyes!

[Artful disarray]

Is it all right to post random tradeable grimoire pages here as well? I am warming up to the idea with some themed pages of my own.

[IceKat]

Is it all right to post random tradeable grimoire pages here as well? I am warming up to the idea with some themed pages of my own.

I was thinking of that too...

[EraserQueen]

Welcome! And yes, that's fine if you want to post some pre-made pages! :jiggy:

[wildholly]

Here are finished pages for skyjules. (herbal themes)

Including some of these herbs from my garden too.

[catpratt]

oh oooooo, that's wonderful Holly. What a satisfied happy moon face, so peaceful. Lucky Julie!

[Skyjules]

Here is the front page for Wildholly, it has a little pocket!
working on the back...

[catpratt]

Oh Julie, that is wonderful. What a great idea, the pocket.

[Skyjules]

it was her idea, the pocket - it was in her description.
But it got me thinking, there are lots of ways to do pockets...and even little doors too!

[IceKat]

So, I totally forgot to show off the BoS I got from my swap partner over on Craftster. I asked for Gypsy style, and although the colours aren't what I asked for, she certainly delivered in style! There's fringe inside the back cover, and that part also has an area for doing pendulum divining! I added some silver coins on chain to the front, and will continue to revamp it over time until it fits me, like breaking in a pair of jeans. lol

http://www.craftster.org/pictures/data/500/medium/123431_23Jun12_BoSfront.jpg

She also included a bunch of other things, including these witches' runes. There's a page with the key to reading them inside the book too.

http://www.craftster.org/pictures/data/500/medium/123431_23Jun12_gypsyrunes.jpg

[wildholly]

Thanks for sharing IceKat, I love the dyed blue fabric and turquoise paisley and this gives me ideas for a cover design or even a cover protector. It definitely has a gypsy flare.

[wildholly]

I just received my Grimoire pages from Skyjules and they are just beautiful. Thank you so much.
Love the Bay Leaves--protection!

[Skyjules]

Perfect timing I got my pages today too!
Thanks Holly, so beautiful - I can't wait to put my book together.

[IceKat]

I finished pages for Catpratt this weekend. I'll try to post them soon. My computer is broken and I'm stuck mostly on my little notebook. It can't really process images due to lack of memory, so I'll have to get onto Phrixy's laptop when I can. I did some divination pages. Phrixy says she'll gladly take them if Catpratt doesn't want them. lol

[IceKat]

Okay, here they are... The first scan with the fortune teller is the outside. It folds in half so it's two double-sided pages. The first page has a tab, but it could be removed if it's not wanted. The inside pages are about fire divination. The back page is using the moon to ask for prophetic dreams.

[catpratt]

wow, those are wonderful rich full pages, magical and inspiring, thank you so much.

[Skyjules]

beautiful pages!

[Artful disarray]

So
I think Maybe I am a little confused :3
Am I to contact those I want to create for or do I wait until contacted?
Shall I make pages based on profiles THEN contact the receiver?
Clearly this is my first non-guided exchange ;)

[catpratt]

Don't wait, please do contact those you want to create for and see if they are happy to trade with you.
Contact them BEFORE you create so you're not stuck with pages finished and someone who is out of time or can't trade immediately. That's my understanding:-)

So
I think Maybe I am a little confused :3
Am I to contact those I want to create for or do I wait until contacted?
Shall I make pages based on profiles THEN contact the receiver?
Clearly this is my first non-guided exchange ;)

[Ginart]

Wow, what an awesome concept! So many ideas, so little time... ;)

Lurking!

[wildholly]

Is this thread still active?

I would love to trade some pages with anyone?

[IceKat]

I'll be trading still. I just want to finish my Solstice packages first.

[catpratt]

I hope it is still active!!! I need more pages also. I think I have traded with everyone signed up though...I believe. How to get more people to sign up?

[wildholly]

Well, Catpratt and I are going for a second round.....
we are looking for new peepers to join in too.

Ice I would love to trade pages with you next if you'd like?:flower:

[oddbreed]

I love this concept, when is the new round starting Holly?

[catpratt]

Oddbreed, in this we just sign up, you're put on the first thread entry, and the other players contact you for a trade. You work it out between each other. Wanna trade?