Exquisite book idea

[Job Limbert]

The idea: Based loosely on a nursery rhyme style, we are going to develop a story. Each artist only sees the work of the previous artist and continues the story & accompanying art & sends on to the next. No one sees any other work, so the end will be a strange surprise.

NEW DEVELOPMENT (and I promise this will be the last major change): Each artist will have two pages, but text will be reserved for the bottom quarter of both with accompanying images above the text.

Each artist will make a 1/4" border around and in between image and text.

The image will be 4 1/2" X 7 1/4" in a vertical format from the outside edge of each border. This will be on a 5.5" X 8.5" white page, or 'digest size' (See template below).

The image should be solid black & white or very high contrast and when finished, one quality print should be sent to me by mail and one copy, either hard copy or digital image should be sent on to the next artist. No one else involved should see the work until the finished product.

First artist:

1st line rhyming with 3rd line
2nd line rhyming with 4th line
3rd- 1st
4th-2nd

5th line starts next verse & rhymes with 7th but no rhyming with previous verse
6th line rhymes with 8th, again not with previous verse, but starting anew
7th line- 5th
8the line- 6th.

Next artist,

1st line rhymes with last artist's 5th & 7th lines and their 3rd line.
Continue the pattern as before.

Remember that the rhythm or flow of the lines will be an even more important factor than the actual message, that is, since this will be a very strange story anyway, it is more important to keep the rhythm and fit some really weird rhyme in there than for it to make more 'sense' and disrupt the flow. The illustration will establish whatever strange story you are telling.

I will post an example soon as a visual reference to layout.

Each artist will have ONE MONTH to finish their work. If you get finished before one month, please send it along so we can move the calendar up. Please send $3.00 with your copy to me and when the book is finished I am going to make the appropriate amount of copies and bind a book for everyone involved.

Calendar thus far:

August- me
September- Eraserqueen
October- Amerasu
November- Jart
December- adriayna
January- lattetzar
February- artyiagirl
March- Anonevyl
April- Meran
May- TabLynn
June- Judithian
July- Surrealsm

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/jeveretto/template.jpg

[EraserQueen]

I am very interested..I like the Black and white, themed idea too.

just an idea.... but for simplicity of reproduction, it may be easier for people to work on a half of a 8.5x11 sheet(?): one side art, the other for text...send to the person next in line AND you. The you can assemble the pages in correct order in a mock-up, then xerox the pages accordingly.

If 20 people sign up, and there is a xerox page per person, plus cover, intro, whatever they can send you $3 or so along with the SASE...

[Amerasu]

I'd be in. I love the theme too :)

[Job Limbert]

I am very interested..I like the Black and white, themed idea too.

just an idea.... but for simplicity of reproduction, it may be easier for people to work on a half of a 8.5x11 sheet(?): one side art, the other for text...send to the person next in line AND you. The you can assemble the pages in correct order in a mock-up, then xerox the pages accordingly.

If 20 people sign up, and there is a xerox page per person, plus cover, intro, whatever they can send you $3 or so along with the SASE...

That way sounds good to me. Except that's a lot of space for text. I was thinking of cutting the image & text out and creating a mock-up that way, two artists on each side of an 8.5 x 11. But maybe we could do like your saying and create interactive borders sort of like an old manuscript to fill out the text page more?

[TabLynn]

This is a fascinating idea! Whether I could participate would depend on time frame, but its definitely a cool idea.

[EraserQueen]

That could work too...if you want to draft a mock up of the layout, that could give us a better idea of what you want the finished product to look like, how many words we'd write etc.

[Job Limbert]

I've thought about it more and I don't think I like my manuscript idea, I'd like it to focus more on the images?

[Job Limbert]

That could work too...if you want to draft a mock up of the layout, that could give us a better idea of what you want the finished product to look like, how many words we'd write etc.


Yeah I was thinking a sort of simple children's book kind of layout, just basically one or two lines per image. But hopefully, some pretty outrageous lines. Something really strange. I think if we jump back & forth with some quick lines, it'll be more bizarre and a 'fresher' story. Maybe four lines would be a good flow and could fill up the left side of the page though. Perhaps two wouldn't be enough for much of an individual voice. Should we make it ryhme? Maybe we could do some dark take on a nursery rhyme. Or mix up several of them.

[Judithian]

I think it sounds splendid. What a fun project. To help ease the story along, I think each artist would have to provide at least 6 - 8 lines of text. And I love the idea of it being a dark nursery rhyme!

[EraserQueen]

What about giving the book a horizontal format and incorporate the text into the bottom of the drawing? The written format you are suggesting sounds reminiscent of Edward Gorey's The Doubtful Guest or The curious sofa, and I like that sort of thing, so that could be cool.

[Job Limbert]

Eight lines sounds okay. Any more and it might be too much of a shift to the next person I think. Of course, I guess the point is to feed off what the last person wrote, so it should have some continuity no matter what. And a horizontal format is pretty interesting, although the more lines we are getting, the more space we will need.
This may be asking too much for the writing end, but what if each person were to be assigned a nursery ryhme to turn dark and each would have to somehow tie into the last, all bleeding into each other.

[Job Limbert]

Tell me if this would be too complex:

First artist:

1st line ryhming with 3rd line
2nd line ryming with 4th line
3rd- 1st
4th-2nd

5th line starts next verse & ryhmes with 7th but no rhyming with previous verse
6th line ryhmes with 8th, again not with previous verse, but starting anew
7th line- 5th
8the line- 6th.

Next artist,

1st line rymes with last artist's 5th & 7th lines and their 3rd line.
Continue the pattern as before.

Sorry, I'm quite sure that could have been explained simpler.

[Chronata]

This is very cool! I think I get the rhyming concept you have put forth...and I like that idea, because then you have to come up with something quirky to "fit" the poem!

And Dark, and nursery rhymes...and black and white? I am so in!

[EraserQueen]

I understand the rhyme pattern! I think that could work well.

[OriginalYouth]

This is a great idea. Depending on how dark you intend to go, I'll play... ;) I'm really enjoying working in black and white ink lately anyway.

[princessgene]

I like the dark nursery rhyme type of story. I would need detailed instructions on what I'm supposed to do though. I'm not sure I get your concept idea. But it sounds interesting.

[Job Limbert]

I like the dark nursery rhyme type of story. I would need detailed instructions on what I'm supposed to do though. I'm not sure I get your concept idea. But it sounds interesting.

I'm not sure I get my concept idea either. I want this forum to be an exploration of ideas for it.

[Job Limbert]

and how dark do we intend to go? I say black. I say chop-up-children-and-feed-them-to-the-pigs-black. But not starve-a-dog-for-art-sake-black. I'm drunk as hell and will probably apologize in the morning. -big moochee to the original.

[OriginalYouth]

and how dark do we intend to go? I say black. I say chop-up-children-and-feed-them-to-the-pigs-black. But not starve-a-dog-for-art-sake-black. I'm drunk as hell and will probably apologize in the morning. -big moochee to the original.

Okay, so maybe I'm out. We'll see how it plays out...

[Job Limbert]

I'm still drunk and awake and I apologize original. Moochee (that isn't reading right to me, that's supposed to be a silly version of a kiss).

[Job Limbert]

C'mon, I can't even spell rime.

[Lagaz]

LOL @ Job! :biglaugh:

[Amerasu]

lol, yeah feeding kids to dogs is pretty dark ;)

Sounds like a very interesting project though. I'm definitely all for doing something like this. I don't mind how dark it gets really as long as stays on the fun side of dark and we don't start sacrificing babies or animals, lol. Maybe something like a Chuck Palahniuk novel - that absurdly dark, satirical horror style. Or dark nursery rhymes sounds pretty awesome too.

[LisaB]

I love to write ditties and silly stuff and the thought of going dark would not be hard but would be a lot of fun. Heck, for a swap, I had Little Red Riding Hood sleeping with the Big Bad Wolf cuz she was hot!

[dina54]

I am SO in this!:cool:

[Meran]

I'd try to make an effort... ;)

[Job Limbert]

So probably the 'assigning a nursery rhyme to each person to play off of' is out? That is, would it be too difficult to do in the format we are saying, continuing into one story? Boy, if that could be done it would be quite a venture. I think it would be too hard. So then just nursery rhyme-esque? As far as content, I honestly don't care if someone does decide to sacrifice babies or some such thing, as long as it's clever. If you think about it, one of the most popular has something about a baby falling out of a tree? Eh? Not very clever, but it sure stuck around. One of the best books I ever read was "The Throne of Bones" by Brian McNaughton. It was flat disguisting and sick and depraved, but exceptionally and intellegently written. But the point of this to me is that perhaps one person sacrifices their firstborn, and maybe the next person is creeped out by a bug. Again, all I care about is some clever lines. But let's keep talking and form this thing, it's really not about what I think, I'm only one voice in it and if most are against killing babies (geez) then so be it.

[EraserQueen]

I think maybe Job hasn't had kids yet lol...

[Job Limbert]

I think maybe Job hasn't had kids yet lol...

HAHAHA... I had children once, but...

[Judithian]

I'm drunk as hell and will probably apologize in the morning. -big moochee to the original.

Uhh Huh. And how are we feeling today? :wub:

[EraserQueen]

Uhh Huh. And how are we feeling today?

Probably like one of his sacrifices HAHAHAHA

[Job Limbert]

Came up with somethin right quick: I think I can do better though...

Jack and Joe
went down the row
to get a batch of corn

Joe killed Jack
he stabbed his back
and turned it into porn

and...

Hickory Dickory Deck
a rat chewed through my neck
Before I was dead
my neck spilled red
and nobody cleaned up a speck

[OriginalYouth]

Okay, I'm out.

[artyiagirl]

I kinda like the idea of assigning or picking fairy tales, using them "loosely" to inspire the writing and taking them a little gothic, like an illustrated, gothic A Child's Garden of Verse (Robert Louis Stevenson) -- Original Grimm style. The narrative could tie together or not, but if there was a framework like the CGV, it could be really effective. Just throwing some ideas into the melee. Also - maybe we could have a couple of themes and have 3 or 4 folks write for each one . . . not to confuse the discussion.

[Meran]

There's a song called "dead puppies", which if I took it seriously, would gross me out... but I don't. and so it's funny....

Some things I can't think funny.. tho at the moment, I'm not sure what that would be. :)

I'd have to think about it...

Bush and his environmental policies.. that CAN be funny, but I see the reality too strongly to have a sense of humor about it... Drilling for oil, just for someone's totally unnecessary Hummer, see that's just not funny... dead baby seals, not, either..

But darkness is very appealing, most times.. we did the Gothic Poem swap.. that was depressing but a lot of fun, even so...

I'm still in.
However y'all want to do it..

[Job Limbert]

Like the movie Dead Alive, which aims at being just about as disgusting as possible, but it's just so ridiculous that it's really funny. Between gagging. We don't have to go this direction at all if no one is interested. We could just make a really strange story without rhyming or anything, I'm up for whatever. I just like the exquisite corpse book idea, something that will be surprising. And artyiagirl...multiple books would be fine too to include everyone. But I think the more people in each, the more interesting the story would turn out.

[Job Limbert]

Actually, I'm going to shut up for a while and hope this thread continues.

[PurpleRealm]

hmmm... interesting concept, I shall follow this thread and see if I am 'dark' enough to join! LOL

[Amerasu]

I like exquisite corpse too. Be very cool to see everything together at the end.

[lattetzar]

This also makes me think of Gorey, but The Gashlycrumb Tinies.

"A is for Amy who fell down the stairs, B is for Basil assaulted by bears, C is for Clara who wasted away."

It's a hilarious ABC primer. :)

[Meran]

I'll have to look for that one.. it sounds ~very fun!

[Meran]

okay, found it.. go see!

http://users.aol.com/emarko/z.html

these would be very doable.. no gooeyness anywhere. and rather darkly gloomy funny...

[Amerasu]

HA! Those are twisted little ABCs :jiggy:

[lattetzar]

I can't belive you found it online like that Meran. You really are resourceful! :)

[jart]

sounds fun, count me in

Joel/Jart

[Job Limbert]

okay, found it.. go see!

http://users.aol.com/emarko/z.html

these would be very doable.. no gooeyness anywhere. and rather darkly gloomy funny...

Thank you lattetzar and meran! This is fantastic, a great sort of loose model for what we are aiming for. A couple more issues to address...should these be solid black and white or should grayscale be allowed, keeping in mind the xerox? I think we should do one page text of eight lines and one page image...how can we keep some sort of consistency with the design of the text page without getting too stiff or controlled? A border that stays the same maybe? A template just for sizing of the text?

[EraserQueen]

I think a layout of some kind should be designed, and a border sounds good.

[Job Limbert]

Also, I think we are all pretty much on the same page here, but I would like to mention...let's keep this classic and somewhat universal. Examples... ice cream good- dairy queen bad, bicycle good- s.u.v. bad, typewriter okay- computer bad.

And as for my little ditty's I wrote, no porn. No outrage. Just simple, classic light horror. Right?

[Meran]

as per my online find: it was the first link. Easy doesn't even describe it... but yes, they were quite fun!

and I LIKE Dairy Queen.. it's gluten free!
and not all PC stuff is correct.. those new expensive fluorescent lights? FULL of mercury, which goes back into the landfill.. not counting the fact that they are prohibitively expensive.. all the supposed electricity $$'s you'd save? you spend it to the manufacturer instead..
So, I'm not sure I'd agree with your list, Job..

and I am ~extremely on to the environmental thing... it was started when >I< was young, in the 60's and I've adhered to it ever since... so there! lol

[Anonevyl]

Ok - count me in.

I have the Ghastly Crumb Tinies and some others by Gorey. I love him. Is this surprising?

[Job Limbert]

Meran, you kind of lost me. I like Dairy Queen just fine, and the environment is pretty alright with me too. I was just wanted to keep the book in a more classic tone.

[EraserQueen]

Job: It's called a "Meran-Tangent" If you train yourself not to get too distracted by them, you can learn really interesting and useful stuff :)

[Judithian]

EQ - you are too cute. Yes, Meran - you too - we love you that much more because you do give us much to reflect upon.

Job - it all sounds good. Can't wait to see this thing roll out. I would like to throw out a cohesive suggestion. Each artist could create a pattern/design/image in b&w that could be stamped around thier page for the border. If we make the stamps small enough (with the good old photoshop - which is always universally good in my book), it will bring the cohesiveness together regardless of what the artist brings to each page. (just thought I'd throw that one out).

[Judithian]

Okay, plaese ingore alll the typppoos in that last reply :-)

[Job Limbert]

Jud, so maybe we say an inch or two border that people can create themselves with a repeating pattern? I'm not sure how to make the photoshop stamp, just print out small design and transfer? If we did something like that, should we repeat the border on both pages?

[Job Limbert]

and how about the b&w versus grayscale? I think we are about to embark here.

[EraserQueen]

We can create the illusion of grayscale with pen and ink techniques, right?

[Job Limbert]

Alright, let's do it.

8 lines per artist, using the rhyming pattern described earlier in the thread.
One page with a 1.5" border consisting of a repeating pattern and text inside that border
One page with a 1.5" border consisting of a repeating pattern and image inside
Solid black and white- both borders should measure 4.5" X 7" at the outside edge and
created on a 5.5" X 8.5" page, making the digest size.

For simplicity sake, please sign up starting now for a commitment even if you've shown interest....

[EraserQueen]

I want to sign up, but a due date will factor into the decision!

[Job Limbert]

Seems clear by going back that these are commited, correct me if I'm wrong...

Jart
Anonevyl
Meran
dina54
Chronata
Judithian
Amerisu
EraserQueen

[Job Limbert]

I don't see how we can really have a due date, since each artist would be waiting on the previous. Maybe we can set up a time table for people to sign up on? Each having two weeks?

[EraserQueen]

yeah, there has to be a due date/time allotment or we artists will procrastinate into eternity :)

[TabLynn]

yes, I would love to commit, but I have other stuff I have to do so it would depend on when my portion would have to be done

[artyiagirl]

Raises Hand -- I wanna participate :)

[Meran]

OOOh, I have something named after me, I'm an ICON... lol

I just don't want to be in the first half of players.

Are we sending this around, like a round robin type of thing? So we can see what previous artists have done? If so, it arrives to me, and I have 2 wks, to do it, then send it on/in?

sounds good to me. I have commitments to an art show until Oct 6th. Please place me after that, if at all able. And YES, I am committed.. :jiggy:

[Job Limbert]

Meran, this is based on something the surrealists did called 'exquisite corpse'...what happens is that nobody sees what the other artists are doing so it will end up a really strange story. We all see one part, which is only the single previous artist work, with which the next artist will build on or continue the story. The fun is seeing the surprising whole at the end.
Can anyone be signed up sooner? Last two weeks of August? I didn't really think about just how long this going to take, but I guess that's okay.

[EraserQueen]

I can do the last two weeks of august :)

[Amerasu]

Last 2 weeks of Aug ok for me too. I'm off work and not doing anything.

[Meran]

Job, how about getting all the decisions you've made on just ONE post? I'd been reading right along, and know what it's based on.. however, there are several things you were wanting to include, and it's best to be clear.
When it was talked about rhymes, children's were mentioned; does it matter if I do Little Bo Peep and someone does as well? Just how 'blind' did you want this?
I saw the posting where you gave sizes of the pages.. but it didn't seem to me that the rhyming part was settled yet.
And I did see where black and white and greyscale was to be allowed, no color... am I still correct in that?
And if I'm confused, it may be that others are too, and staying out of the discussion because of it..
I'm not trying to spin a tangent here; these are honest questions.
And when you say the end of August, you're meaning in your hands? Digitally or mail? Or both?

I have 5 paintings that will have to be done and framed by mid Sept, that's why I said what I did.. and the Show will be in the first weekend of Oct, so a flurry of activities will be going on for me..

[Job Limbert]

Okay, sorry. Here is what I was thinking at this point...
We can still do a sort of nursery rhyme, but pretty much just making up our own. I just think this going to be complicated to continue from the last person if we also are assigned a real nursery rhyme to conform to.

And I'm sorry I wasn't also more clear on this, but I was agreeing with EraserQueen that we can keep them in solid black & white and create the illusion of grayscale that way. (pen & ink, scratchboard, etc.) This is simply because they will be better quality xerox images. But really, just strong contrast is the most important thing.

and here is the rhyming pattern:

First artist:

1st line ryhming with 3rd line
2nd line ryming with 4th line
3rd- 1st
4th-2nd

5th line starts next verse & ryhmes with 7th but no rhyming with previous verse
6th line ryhmes with 8th, again not with previous verse, but starting anew
7th line- 5th
8the line- 6th.

Next artist,

1st line rymes with last artist's 5th & 7th lines and their 3rd line.
Continue the pattern as before.

And as for when the work is due, I suppose a digital image could be sent on to the next person to work from, but I would like to go ahead and get a hard copy just to keep them organized.

Please do ask more questions if need be and sorry I haven't been more clear.

[Job Limbert]

So would this work...

Myself- first two weeks of august
Eraserqueen-last two weeks of august
Amerasu-first two weeks of september
Meran-last two weeks september
next?

And I dont know why I insist on mispelling the word rhyme. Oh wait, I copied & pasted that.

[lattetzar]

I would be game for tackling October. I will have lots out of the way, and pending Halloween to inspire the creepy forboding rhymes for this project.

[artyiagirl]

I can go after lattetzar

[Job Limbert]

lattetzar & artyiagirl, excellent. Obviously this is how we should have done it from the start. Meran- just reread your post and must have a.d.d. (really I think I might), should we bump you to last two weeks of October?

[Anonevyl]

I'll go after artyiagirl or where ever I need to be.

[Amerasu]

Job, why don't you edit your first post to put all of the relevant info on this idea and the schedule so people can find it easily. We usually use the first post for all of the details. Just hit the "edit" button on the bottom right on your first post to add it all in.

[dina54]

Sorry guys but I am going to have to drop from this. I will be away on vacation the last 2 weeks of August and then re-start my night classes the next week. I'm trying to limit my "extra" projects.

[Swaggertoes]

This is going to kick so much ass. Can I say ass? Hope so. because I did...twice.

[Job Limbert]

Amerasu, your wish is granted and thanks for the suggestion. If there is anything I forgot on the first post, let me know. Let's kick some ass.

[Job Limbert]

Also, I understand that this venture is a bit complicated, so if anyone ever runs into problems while they are working, please feel free to pm me for any kind of help.

[Amerasu]

Sounds good Job. I'm looking forward to it! :)

[Meran]

Yes, Job, please put me in Oct. If that's convenient. Later if those weeks are taken..

and I live with my partner, who actively has ADD.. I know what you mean. that's one reason I've a tendency to 'babysit'... everyone gets going pretty hard sometimes, and forget some rather level details.. that's what I'm for.. ;)

I'm a Taurus, with Gemini tendencies. Probably rather obvious to some of you.. lol

[lattetzar]

The first post looks great Job, my only suggestion is to put the schedule of artists in the first post as well.

[Job Limbert]

I'll go after artyiagirl or where ever I need to be.

Can you do the last two weeks of September?

[Job Limbert]

The first post looks great Job, my only suggestion is to put the schedule of artists in the first post as well.

Okay, I'm going to pm a few people who showed interest & try to get a substantial 'calendar' together & I will post it soon & then keep it updated. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Meran]

In the first post, also put the 'returns'.. as in What Do We Get? A book to buy off lulu.com? A copy by you? etc...

As it stands, it just looks like we make two sheets and send them off, and that's it... no returns. Yes, I know I can read the whole thread, but it should be stated simply in the first one.. please ;)

[adriayna]

Add me in whenever you need me! :)

[Job Limbert]

Thanks Meran, that's good attentive thinking! And thanks adriayna, I'll be posting a calender soon.

[Meran]

glad to be of service, Job. ;)

Hey, is there to be a 'bleed out' edge? Just for me, lol, can you work up your own border on the size you want for us to peruse? I know you don't want us to see the 'finished work'.. no prob there.. just the border, maybe with xx's where the text would be? I'm not following as cleanly/clearly as I would care to.. and don't want to be a killjoy OR mess it up for everyone else, NOR you neither..

[Job Limbert]

glad to be of service, Job. ;)

Hey, is there to be a 'bleed out' edge? Just for me, lol, can you work up your own border on the size you want for us to peruse? I know you don't want us to see the 'finished work'.. no prob there.. just the border, maybe with xx's where the text would be? I'm not following as cleanly/clearly as I would care to.. and don't want to be a killjoy OR mess it up for everyone else, NOR you neither..

Yeah, I'm actually working on one now. I'll post it very soon.

[Amerasu]

I'm looking forward to this one :)

[Meran]

yes, Job, to your pm question... November is fine.

[Job Limbert]

Okay, I've got one more pm I'm waiting on and I'll post the calendar thus far.

[Amerasu]

Looks good so far, Job. If you need to move me around, that's no problem. I don't mind when I work on this.

[Judithian]

Forgive my jumping in, but where is the actual post? I'd like to be added in please!

[adriayna]

Yeah, I didn't see the calendar either!

[Job Limbert]

Alrighty, the calendar is now in the first post- please continue to sign up and/or let me know of any changes you'd like to make or if I have made any mistakes.

[Amerasu]

Sounds great Job :)

Can't wait to get started on this.

[adriayna]

Ok, 1st two weeks of Jan works for me. Any later than that and I'll be flying all over the country on the job market :P.

[Meran]

Dana, are you job hunting????
If you need to look in the Portland area, please, stay with me.. I'll be glad to help you get around. It won't be an art visit, unless you want it to be.. I have GPS on my car, ;)

[adriayna]

Meran, yeah. I start job hunting once the fall semester starts because I am in my last year of my Ph.D. and will finish my dissertation up this year. The job hunt takes 6 months for tenure-track academic positions. So I apply in the fall, then I interview at MLA in San Fransisco over New Years. In late Jan - Feb and maybe into March, I go for campus visits. Finally, I get offers and make a decision. As I understand it, its one of the worst job application processes there is! :(

I really appriciate your offer! If I have a campus visit there, I will certainly let you know. Most of the time, the university will pay for a hotel and/or plane ticket for me to come, but not always.

[Meran]

Even so, I'll know where most places are, and some safe places to eat.. :D

[Judithian]

Hey Job - the schedule for me is fine, but we might need to add an extra week for everyone for shipping - especially around Christmas the mail will be going slower. Otherwise we'll only get a few days to come up with a fun rhyme, create our art and ship.

[Job Limbert]

Hey Job - the schedule for me is fine, but we might need to add an extra week for everyone for shipping - especially around Christmas the mail will be going slower. Otherwise we'll only get a few days to come up with a fun rhyme, create our art and ship.

Ah geez, I thought that I had thought of everything. I was trying to think of a good balance to where we wouldn't have to wait a year or more for the final product, but you make a fine point. Okay folks, let's talk about this, help me out here.....

[Anonevyl]

Hey Job - you think you could make a template of the page design?

[Job Limbert]

I'll check back often to keep on top of this, I've been feeling like I bit off more than I can chew from my limited experience, so I sincerely apologize for the all-over-the-place lack of organization. But I keep telling myself that the nature of this project is a little fragile...and...good things come to those who wait.

[Amerasu]

lol, yeah these projects have a life of their own - that's for sure. I think we're all patient though and it will work itself out as we go :)

[Anonevyl]

I think it's just a first time project and you are finding all of the little annoying glitches as you go. Once this first one is complete, any other exquisite projects will go much smoother.

You're doing a masterful job, anyway - you'll find quickly that we are a very patient and helpful bunch.

Is $3.00 enough to cover all of the costs, btw?

[Job Limbert]

Okay...to everyone involved...there is going to be a new calendar...a one month firm deadline. We are starting the calendar all over again. I would like to give each person on the original list, in that order, the chance to have the entire month. I know some people will have trouble with this...for example, let's see if...adriayna, would you like the month of December? Each person that still wants to be involved, please let me know your concerns/schedules and we'll see how we can sort this out. I think it's important that you post here soon so we can work together on this. In a few days, if people on the original list have not posted, I will contact them to let them know what's going on.

[Job Limbert]

Anonevyl- I will cover remaining costs. There probably will be a little with printing + shipping, but I've jerked people around enough with this silly thing. And I don't mind putting a little cash into something like this (aka...please give absolute best work!)

[Amerasu]

Job, I'm still in and you can put me anywhere on the calendar - no need to ask. You can also change me around while you sort it out. I don't need to know where I am until it's all settled.

[Meran]

Hey Job, I have another monkey wrench for you..;)

What if I don't take all month? will the person behind me have the rest of my month? Plus their month?

lol

then we can push the schedule up..

and yes, we're patient.. very much so. And find humor everywhere.. when and where we can! Even at YOUR expense.. :D

[Job Limbert]

Amerasu--god bless you. Meran, that sounds like a great way of doing it. I could update the calendar as necessary then. And please laugh at me, I try to do so often. I came to the realization that I'm very likely the only one stressing over this.

[Judithian]

Job - you can put me in whereve you need to.

But I will be out of town Nov 25th - Dec 3rd (if we can work around that).

And yes, you probably are the only one stressing. We really are very laid back here. It takes awhile to get used to that mode of thinking though.

I'm just glad you've joined!

[TabLynn]

You can stick me where needed as long as it is not in the next couple of months.

[Anonevyl]

I'm pretty maliable as well. I'll go anywhere you need.

[adriayna]

Yes, please put me in December or sooner. I don't want to have myself tied up too much from Jan - March :).

[lattetzar]

Job, I'm good to go too! If you need someone later in the game that's fun. Or you can keep me in my lineup place!

[artyiagirl]

Job - this works for me. I'm also pretty flexible for the project, so if you ever need to move me around - no worries. Although - I am excited about following up on lattetzar's chunk of the story. :)

[Amerasu]

I hate that we can't see everyone's art work right now! It's going to drive me a little mad waiting to see what this turns out like :)

[adriayna]

But that is part of the fun, Sal! :)

[Job Limbert]

Okay, another update on calendar in first post. And new template.

[surrealsm]

I notice you don't have anyone signed up for July in the first post. Is that month still free? If so, I'd love to do it.

[Job Limbert]

surrealsm, july is yours.

[surrealsm]

Yay! Thanks Job, now I'll just have to wait patiently for my turn :jiggy:

[Job Limbert]

another minor change, I got to thinking and I don't know why I originally said to send me a xerox copy...you should send me the best quality print you can since the more it will be reproduced, the more it will lose quality. The final printout will be xerox. I think. Maybe.

[Amerasu]

Yeah, that sounds better Job. So you want a print out then or should we email high res scans instead?

[Meran]

what Sal said... my printer sucks.

[surrealsm]

Scans would definitely be the best way to go here. That would cause the least degradation of the image. You can bring a cd of images to wherever you plan to have the stuff copied. I know that Staples, Kinkos and probably other copy places will work from PDFs (never checked about JPGS, but they might be able to do that too).

[surrealsm]

another option might be to upload the images to shutterfly.com and then each of us could order our own book.

Otherwise, I have a good printer and I can print out anyone's pages that needs it.

[adriayna]

Scans are good for me too.

[Amerasu]

another option might be to upload the images to shutterfly.com and then each of us could order our own book.

Otherwise, I have a good printer and I can print out anyone's pages that needs it.



This is a great option. Saves Job putting them all together and whatnot, plus mailing out.

[Job Limbert]

I'm all for the shutterfly option if this will not eliminate some due to cost?

[EraserQueen]

I would probably have to know the cost! I'd still participate, but have to figure out if I could buy it or not :)

[surrealsm]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and volunteer to produce this thing. I have a really good printer and there would only be 12 copies of a 12 page book. That's really not a big deal. I also have one of those comb binding machines, so .....if everyone can send high resolution scans then it would be a fairly easy thing to put together.

What are we going to do about a cover image?

[Meran]

lol
talk to Potbelly,,, I seem to remember her saying something similar:rolleyes:

[Amerasu]

Has anyone seen Job lately? Has EQ started since she was the September person?

Surrealsm, that would be amazing if it's something you could and want to do!

[EraserQueen]

Yeah, I'm almost done! :)

[Job Limbert]

Surrealsm, you are the greatest. I'm sorry I haven't been on here in a while, I'm battling a pretty substantial depression...the kind that you can't quite figure out where it's coming from.
Also, I would like to do the cover image.

[EraserQueen]

I am done, I just need to scan and such :)

[Job Limbert]

Remember though guys, only send your work on to the next person on the list. Otherwise, keep your scans until the last person is finished at which time we will all send to the ever so generous Surrealsm.

[surrealsm]

I can't wait to see this all at the end!

My husband has that whole "bouts of inexplicable depression" thing. I don't hassle him about it and we just ride it through. It eventually clears, just like bad weather, and things are sunny again. Hope the sun shines soon for you.

[Amerasu]

So Annie - you send your image to me now? I think I'm October. I'll check,

[Amerasu]

Do I get to see your image EQ?

Or do I just go by the rhyme you sent? I'm not sure and I haven't started so I thought I better ask.

[EraserQueen]

My scanner is working again but I can't find my art :realmad: (we're in the process of turning the den into an art room, and my art stuff is all over the place and I'm going insane) I actually only had a brief glance of Job's art, when I went back, he took it down from photobucket LOL, so I really had only the rhyme to work from.

Basically you illustrate what you write, not what has been written, so I was okay not seeing his art. I wanna Show mine to somebody though LOL So I'll scan it the second I find it!

[Amerasu]

Ok, no worries. I'll just go by the rhyme then and get on it :)

[Job Limbert]

Sorry, I didn't realize I had taken the image down from photobucket. I intended for it to be a response all around, but I guess going by the rhyme is interesting too.

[EraserQueen]

Well, it's certainly a good way so as not to influence style!

it's freaking me out that I still can't find mine! It may have been put in a box, I need to ask my mother!

[Meran]

I'd love to see any artwork that results from this, as it goes along.. Not that I could copy any of it.. lol

It's lovely to see the book develop! Or, it will be!
:D

[Amerasu]

Annie, would you mind sending me the rhyme again? I deleted it!!! Sorry about that! I was cleaning out my in box and I went too far.

[EraserQueen]

Sure! I'll do that now :D

[jart]

I know I have been an absentee artist this fall, but I see from original schedule I am November. It is fine if you have rescheduled the month, if you are keeping to that schedule I will take up my slack.

I've been accessing the site lately, great work being done, and some wonderful artist additions the the site. Job, sorry about the depression.

Jart

[Amerasu]

No, it's my fault Joel!!!! UGH. I totally forgot about this!!

I will have your poem to you on Monday.

[Job Limbert]

Yeah, I've been pretty absent myself. I'll lick this depression thing too, I feel a 'new season' comin on. Sort of a crossroads if you will, and I think I'm making the right decisions.

[adriayna]

Where are we on this? I want to make sure I allocate the necessary time for this :)

[Amerasu]

I'm the hold up. I have to pass the poem on to Jart and he will then pass it on to the next person.

I don't think it matters when you get your artwork done, as long as the poem carries forward.

Let me finish this work and I'll find the poem from Annie and make changes, then forward to Joel.

[adriayna]

Ok, I just wanted to make sure I didn't need to do it in like the next two weeks. Job search is getting a bit crazy :)

[Judithian]

Are we still on track on this one? If so, I'm setting the entire month of June aside for this. If not, that's cool, I just wanted to make certain I set aside enough time when it comes my way.

[Meran]

Lattetzar should have had this in January, and then ArtyIAgirl in Feb. Is that where it's at, at the moment? Jan, are you holding this up??? :D

[artyiagirl]

I don't have Jan's text yet - but I bet it'll be coming my way soon. Feb is the shortest month :)

[Meran]

oooh, you're right.. Bug him! he likes it :D

[lattetzar]

Hehe, I guess I do like to be bugged. This has been in the back of my mind lately, I thought my month was coming up. . .it's been here and gone. I haven't recieved the previous text. I can't continue the rhyme scheme without it. It seems to me that the most important part is to have the poem done so it can be passed on, then we can illustrate it in a more leisurly fashion. Am I understanding this correctly? I guess I need to bug Adriayna to get the text?

[Meran]

I think so :D
the bugging thread continues.s.......

[Amerasu]

Is this still going? I sort of thought it had died out. I haven't seen Job around here in ages and no one has really done anything yet.

Why don't we just start this again?

[Judithian]

Sal - it looks like some people kept it going, but then the holiday months just set us all back. I guess the real question is, if Job isn't tracking it, does anyone else want to take over? It seems like an incredible, fun project to achieve.

I'd be glad to help, but have no idea one the printing or binding decisions that were made.

[EraserQueen]

I think Lynne was going to looking into the binding issues.... And we may have to start again of Job doesn't submit his contribution,

[Meran]

Cincinnati is not far from Swaggertoes in Dayton area... maybe she could check up on him, make sure he's alive/well?
Maybe something's up.... I'd help send gas money... or I'd call him by phone. IF anyone has that number...

[adriayna]

I'm still waiting for Joel to send me his lines. So right now, my understanding is that the project stopped when Joel didnt' send to me.

[surrealsm]

If this gets back on track, I volunteered a while back to print the thing (I have a good printer and a comb-binding thingy, though I've seen some other binding thingys out there that are looking tempting to me....)

I hope Job is okay, his posts were a little depressed a while back.

[adriayna]

Did anyone do theirs that is before Joel? If so, we could skip joel for now and whoever was the last person to do theirs could send to me, and I could get mine done and get the project back on track...?

[EraserQueen]

Sal was before Joel! You could PM her Dana :)

[Meran]

is this going? some work was done, correct? who has it now?
has anyone talked to Job? what's his addy, I'll try to contact him.. I can be nice, really!!!

[adriayna]

I am still waiting on Joel. So no response from Joel, so maybe Sal will send to me instead and we can skip Joel? But Job hasn't been around either. So don't know WHAT is going on.

[Job Limbert]

Sincerest apologies folks. I'm ashamed that I haven't kept up with this and fell completely off track. I am not up for finishing it, and will probably not be able to visit this site for a while. If you would like to continue this particular project, this is the beginning of the rhyme that I believe was then sent to Eraserqueen to continue. So if someone wanted to illustrate it, here it is...

There once was a man
who fell down the stairs
He bounced right back up
and slicked back his hair

He felt kind of shy
and looked all around
But when he looked down
he was dead on the ground